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Saturday, May 27, 2006

Un-'Reliable' Land Titles system (2?3? Systems of Ownership)

Re: Two distinct systems of land ownership
Bob Aaron,'s column, Toronto Star Sat May 27/06, K10

Dear Mr Aaron,

Your column today on the legal conflicts between 'aboriginal title' and our Crown-grant-based Land Titles/Registry systems is spot on!

"It is clear to me as a real estate lawyer that Ontario's 12.5 million citizens need a land registration system that can be relied on as absolute and final. When the government registry office issues a deed to a citizen, whether the recipient is a corporation or an individual, the public must be able to rely on the assurances in that document."

Indeed!

The Treaty Rights and Aboriginal Title rights of s. 35 & 35.1 and the decisions you refer to since the Calder case of 1973, compounded by the possible implications of courts interpreting Household Realty v. Liu/Chan to apply to frauds perpetrated by non-titled, un-married individuals (to me the case was expressly about a married couple who held title as joint tenants and whose testimony was NOT believed) and then exacerbated by the nonsensical computer-created interest in Ontario lands now termed Land Titles Conversion Qualified (LTCQ) and the complex process to establish Land Titles Absolute Plus (LT+) make our Land Tenure system's "fee simple interest" quite a joke.

I totally agree with you, we all need a reliable land registration system - that everyone understands. The higglety-pigglety history of the Douglas Creek Estates tract is a unique & terrible example of colonial, administrative loose ends and human greed made worse by a series of incompatible land systems laid one atop the previous.

Unfortunately, the rest of Canada suffers from the same problems but to varying degree.

The Royal Proclamation of 1763 reserved a 'Hunting Grounds' territory beyond what Britain claimed by conquest and Treaty from France and since that date much outside of 'New France' has been acquired by many treaties of varying quality, with written & unwritten provisions, signed by Chiefs of varying-authority, by agents of the Crown with varying degrees of forthrightness (except B.C where no colonial Treaties were signed) and upon THIS foundation we lay our property ownership system(s).

In my mind solving our land title and registration problem is key to coming to grips with Canada's #1 issue - how do we settle the historic claims of 600+ Autochthonous Nations/Indian Act Bands and their 1+ million members?

How do we settle Land Claims? in Groups/Bands/Nations? as individuals? with fee simple Aboriginal Qualified? Land Titles (still fee simple) Absolute Plus? another Crown grant? Allodial title? self-government-as -a Nation? self-gov't-as-a-municipality? self-gov't-as-a-province?

But how dare we try to settle these land claims, based on occupancy & rights from the pre-European era, when today, right here in Ontario (as you've so ably outlined) we "Europeans" cannot rely on our "European" system?


More By Bob Aaron
Toronto Subject to Land Claim - Star Sat Jun 10/06

"Phoney" fiscal Imbalance - The Solution

Dear Recorder & Times Editor,

The story by Joan Bryden, "Fiscal imbalance a phoney excuse to weaken the federal government: report " on various organizations' suggestions to repair the fiscal integrity of Canada, came sooooo close to actually solving the problem. http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/060524/n0524113A.html

The solution is for Ottawa to take over "healthcare funding" which I think most people would agree is quite different from BNA Act s 92(7) "The Establishment, Maintenance, and Management of Hospitals, Asylums, Charities, and Eleemosynary Institutions in and for the Province, other than Marine Hospitals".
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/c1867_e.html#distribution

If this BNA provision is the only reason for the provinces WANTING to keep control of this should-be-national, tax-revenue-gobbling nightmare of a responsibility, perhaps they could be induced to pass the responsibility to fund 100% of healthcare over to the Dominion gov't, IF at the same time the Dominion gov't assumed all the "provincial purpose" debts.

A similar debt-assumption deal was part of original Confederation in 186 7 and, also was done in exchange for the colony/provinces giving up some former responsibilities. Duly noted then and now, the debts were assumed on a formula, and payments were granted to provinces whose debt-ratio was lower than than others. BNA 1967 ss.111,112,114,115,116,119 http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/c1867_e.html#revenues

IF this plan was enacted the Dominion gov't could supervise the implementation of the Canada Health Act without force or coercion and all people in Canada would be subject to a universal plan - shouldn't the pool of contributors be a big as possible anyway?

In addition, with both health and debt charges off the provincial books, very little in additional equalization/transfers would be required.


Robert Ede


P.S The down-side I suppose is that once we had a National Health Plan, the public would soon see that the unified Healthcare program was consuming an amount just about equal to the total of ALL (ie Federal + Provincial) Personal Income Taxes. It would soon be obvious that the most publicly-coveted and grandest-seeming of all of Canada's Free Social Programs was always paid by taxpayers.

Always that is except for the time during the early-70's thru the mid 90's (when the Baby boom was over, but the gov't dared not raise taxes to pay for the ballooning costs of healthcare) when the Dominion government simply borrowed the shortfall between health costs and tax revenue. We now call that the Interest Bearing Debt ($615.3 Billion Gross and $499.9 B Net , Public Accts Mar31/05 ) that costs the Dominion gov't $ 34.1 billion annually to service interest-only.
http://www.pwgsc.gc.ca/recgen/pdf/v1pa05-e.pdf (text pg 1.3, PDF pg9)

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